Recently,
when this controversial photo
was posted in our official fb page THE
MALE PAGEANTS IN THE PHILIPPINES, I have made it to also regularly share it
in my facebook account wall. Now, it created a stir. Some agreed with me while
others were half-hearted about the issue. A talent manager claimed that the
standing guy was his talent. We exchanged private messages and he insisted that
it was truly his talent. But until now, he could not provide me with the
original photo. I stand by my ground that it was another person.
Interestingly,
a man named Salde L. Singo
presented his comment on the issue. What happened next was a wonderful, hot,
lively exchange.
SALDE L. SINGO: My take.. I do not
know know why a photo like this should be an issue. In a country like
Philippines, there are lots of hypocrites. Nasa loob ang kulo. Pag nakakita ng
ganitong klaseng picture, naiiskeandalo. Come on!! Given the opportunity, WE
ALL DO
THE SAME THING. It is not a CRIME. It is a morality issue and we have different
standards, so we should not judge someone to be immoral because we have a
different standard. I would rather check someone's police record than someone
else's facebook account. Furthermore, other countries have pornstars as
candidates and went on to win and eventually succeed. Let us look at ourselves
instead of others. We clean our own backyard, not others'.
SALDE L. SINGO: Let us take a clear example. Megan Young was
not included in Binibini because of an allegedly racy photo, according to
Binibini standard. Miss World took her and she won and gave us pride! Dont
judge someone based in a photo. Madami ang balot na balot
diyan pero matindi pa sa mga taong naghuhubad. Again if we want change, let us
start on ourselves. Hwag tayong double standard, at yung sinasabi natin sa iba
e hindi natin ginagawa mismo.
ME: “Given the opportunity, WE ALL DO THE SAME THING. “ –
SWEEPING GENERALIZATION. OF COURSE, NOT ALL WILL DO THAT. PERHAPS YOU ARE
SPEAKING FOR YOURSELF.
“we should not judge someone to be immoral because we have a different standard.” – LOOK AT THE CAPTION OF THE PHOTO. DID IT MENTION ABOUT IMMORALITY? WALA DI BA. THE CAPTIONS WERE WORDS OF CAUTION.
“I would rather check someone's police record than someone else's facebook account.” – I RESPECT YOUR TRIP. BUT I WOULD RATHER CHECK SOMEONE ELSE’S FACEBOOK ACCOUNT THAN GO TO THE POLICE AND CHECK RECORDS. NAKAILANG PUNTA KA NA BA SA POLICE STATION?
“Megan YounG was not included in Binibini because of an allegedly racy photo, according to Binibini standard. Miss World took her and she won and gave us pride! Dont judge someone based in a photo.” – I DON’T JUDGE THE PERSON IN THE PHOTO. SEE, HIS NAME IS NOT EVEN MENTIONED.
“we should not judge someone to be immoral because we have a different standard.” – LOOK AT THE CAPTION OF THE PHOTO. DID IT MENTION ABOUT IMMORALITY? WALA DI BA. THE CAPTIONS WERE WORDS OF CAUTION.
“I would rather check someone's police record than someone else's facebook account.” – I RESPECT YOUR TRIP. BUT I WOULD RATHER CHECK SOMEONE ELSE’S FACEBOOK ACCOUNT THAN GO TO THE POLICE AND CHECK RECORDS. NAKAILANG PUNTA KA NA BA SA POLICE STATION?
“Megan YounG was not included in Binibini because of an allegedly racy photo, according to Binibini standard. Miss World took her and she won and gave us pride! Dont judge someone based in a photo.” – I DON’T JUDGE THE PERSON IN THE PHOTO. SEE, HIS NAME IS NOT EVEN MENTIONED.
SALDE L. SINGO: you are excusing yourself from every
statement. Then why post this if this is not a holier than thou type of post.
If your intent is to include "clean image" as a criteria in joining a
pageant, i hope your Male pageant pageant page will only feature those with
clean image. Hope this request is fair enough. Ang
hirap kasi sa tulad mong mapagmalinis, e gawain lng ng iba ng nakikita mo. I
think what i said was clear, do not judge, or to be clearer, do not post a pic
such as what you did, because it is too hypocritical of you to do that. If you
want to advance your cause to have a SAINT to represent us in an international
pageant, i wish you luck.
ME: “you are excusing yourself from every statement. Then why
post this if this is not a holier than thou type of post.” – I MAKE SURE THAT I
HAVE NOT MISSED ANY OF YOUR ASSERRTIONS DEAR. OF COURSE, BEING A MALE PAGEANT
BLOGGER IS AN ADVOCACY.
SO I MAKE SURE THAT I DON’T ONLY POINT OUT WHAT IS GOOD, BUT WHAT IS ALSO NOT.
“If your intent is to include "clean image" as a criteria in joining a pageant, i hope your Male pageant pageant page will only feature those with clean image. Hope this request is fair enough.” – NOT REALLY SUPER CLEAN, BUT SOMEONE THAT MEETS THE MINIMUM. BUT IN THE END, IT IS NOT REALLY UP TO ME BUT TO THE PAGEANT ORGANIZER. IT IS MY JOY IF ORGANIZERS INCLUDE THAT. IF NOT, AT LEAST I HAVE SAID MY PIECE. AND OH, MY PAGE IS JUST AN EXTENTION OF MY BLOG. IF YOU VISIT MY BLOG, YOU WILL SEE THAT I STARTED WITH BIKINI OPEN POSTS, BUT LATER ON SHIFTED TO MAINSTREAM MALE PAGEANTS. BUT EVEN THEN, I HAVE NOT DELETED MY BIKINI OPEN POSTS. THUS, WHEN I SAID THOSE WORDS OF CAUTION, IT HAS A LOOONG HISTORY, AND BASED ON WHAT I SEE, OBSERVED, HEARD – ALL ROLLED IN ONE.
“Ang hirap kasi sa tulad mong mapagmalinis, e gawain lng ng
iba ng nakikita mo. I think what i said was clear, do not judge,” – READ YOUR
FIRST SENTENCE DEAR. YOU HAVE JUDGED ME.
“do not post a pic such as what you did, because it is too
hypocritical of you to do that.” – PAG MAGPOST NG GANYAN, HYPOCRITICAL NA
AGAD-AGAD? HINDI BA PWEDENG CRITICAL MUNA? NAKA-2 POINTS JUDGMENT KA NA, HAHAHA.
“ If you want to advance your cause to have a SAINT to
represent us in an international pageant, i wish you luck.” - I SEND YOU BACK
YOUR WISH, BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE CAUSE I ADVANCED.
SALDE L. SINGO: i say it again because you dont seem to get
the point. Yes your post is not only hypocritical, judgmental and below the
belt, it is also in bad taste, holier than thou, insensitive and mostvof all
IGNORANT. If you want to become a repected male
beauty pageant blogger with good int ention of uplifting their image, i request
that you take that photo down. You dont own that photo. You did not give credit
to the owner of that photo. You put malice to the picture.
I assume you were not there when the people in the photo were having fun. And
lastly, you owe them apology. You violated many basic rules of blogging just
because you want the world to know how squeaky clean, righteous and republican
you are
ME: //i say it again because you dont seem to get the point.
Yes your post is not only hypocritical, judgmental and below the belt, it is
also in bad taste, holier than thou, insensitive and mostvof all IGNORANT.// -
WOW, OCEAN OF ADJECTIVES!!!
SABI MO JUDGMENTAL AKO. SA AKIN BA TALAGA TO O SA YO??? 3 POINTS KA NA.
GRANDSLAM!
//If you want to become a repected male beauty pageant blogger with good intention of uplifting their image, i request that you take that photo down.// - NO.
//If you want to become a repected male beauty pageant blogger with good intention of uplifting their image, i request that you take that photo down.// - NO.
//You dont own that photo. You did not give credit to the owner of that photo. You put malice to the picture. I assume you were not there when the people in the photo were having fun. And lastly, you owe them apology.// THE PHOTO IS IN PUBLIC DOMAIN. AND I DID NOT NAME THE PEOPLE IN THE PHOTO.
//You violated many basic rules of blogging just because you
want the world to know how squeaky clean, righteous and republican you are// 4
POINTS. IKAW NA.
SALDE L. SINGO: Talagang binabalik mo yung mga arguments ko.
You don't even use logic in your statements. You are simply replying with
amateur sentences not worth rebutting. You simply reply, does not matter if you
are nit making sense. Did you reaaly say you'd rather
check fb pge than check their police record? What is the logic? Is that an
intelligent argument all? Well, what do i expect from someone trying hard to
make a name in pageant blogging. Please, if you reply, make sure your arguments
make sense. Just like Joey Mancilla said, huli na nga, ayaw pang aminin
at nagpupumilit sa gusto. I remind you, you have to take the picture down. That
is too irresponsible of a blogger wannabe.
ME: “Talagang binabalik mo yung mga arguments ko.” – YOU SAID
IT.
“You don't even use logic in your statements. You are simply replying with amateur sentences not worth rebutting. You simply reply, does not matter if you are nit making sense.” – YOU HAVE REPLIED TO ME WITH KILOMETRIC SENTENCES, AND I AM NOT MAKING SENSE? WHAT DO YOU CALL A PERSON REPLYING TO A PERSON WITHOUT A SENSE? ALL YOUR JUDGMENTS GO BACK TO YOU DEAR. LOL.
// Did you reaaly say you'd rather check fb pge than check their police record? What is the logic? Is that an intelligent argument all?// MAGBASA KA ULIT SA COMMENTS. FB PAGE IS DIFFERENT FROM FB ACCOUNT. AND WAG MONG I-DELETE ANG MGA COMMENTS MO DITO. PARA DI KITA I-JUDGE. DAHIL MALI KA, HAHAHA.
“You don't even use logic in your statements. You are simply replying with amateur sentences not worth rebutting. You simply reply, does not matter if you are nit making sense.” – YOU HAVE REPLIED TO ME WITH KILOMETRIC SENTENCES, AND I AM NOT MAKING SENSE? WHAT DO YOU CALL A PERSON REPLYING TO A PERSON WITHOUT A SENSE? ALL YOUR JUDGMENTS GO BACK TO YOU DEAR. LOL.
// Did you reaaly say you'd rather check fb pge than check their police record? What is the logic? Is that an intelligent argument all?// MAGBASA KA ULIT SA COMMENTS. FB PAGE IS DIFFERENT FROM FB ACCOUNT. AND WAG MONG I-DELETE ANG MGA COMMENTS MO DITO. PARA DI KITA I-JUDGE. DAHIL MALI KA, HAHAHA.
// Well, what do i expect from someone trying hard to make a
name in pageant blogging. Randee Stepherson Reyes. Please, if you reply, make
sure your arguments make sense.// - NAG-JUDGE KA NA NAMAN. I DON’T AIM TO HAVE
A NAME IN PAGEANT BLOGGING. KASI KONG GANYAN AKO, I SHOULD HAVE ATTENDED ALL
PRESSCON, CORONATION NIGHTS, ETC. MY DEAR, BLOGGING IS MY HOBBY, NOT CAREER OR
PROFESSION. YOUR JUDGMENTS DO NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL.
//Just like Joey Mancilla said, huli na nga, ayaw pang aminin
at nagpupumilit sa gusto.// - JOEY HAS YET TO PROVE IT, SO THIS ARGUMENT OF
YOURS DOESN’T HOLD ANY WATER. MINUS 1 POINT KA DITO.
// I remind you, you have to take the picture down.// - HU U?
// That is too irresponsible of a blogger wannabe.// I’M A
BLOGGER ALREADY, NOT A BLOGGER WANNABE. YOU GIVE ME A GOOD LAUGH.
SALDE L. SINGO: Blogger already? Wow . hahaha.
Lokohan pala ito. You are the joke of the day.
Please dont guise your photo grabbing online activity as a blogging.
Nagpopost lng ng pageant photos blogger na? Bloggers
pala tayong lahat. Thank you for eing me know that.
SALDE L. SINGO: Now I am free and I figured the need for you
to take some logic 101. First, if one says "the one in the picture is my
alaga." , you have to take that. It is you who should prove it otherwise
by showing evidence. And I will tell you, you wil establish credibility. Do not
make yourself look stupid as you did.
SALDE L. SINGO: Don't make it obvious that you are running
out of defense. Prove your point! If you are a blogger, just like YOU claim to
be, then be objective, not defensive. If you have got evidence that you are
indeed a blogger, people will see that. I hope they are not mere announcements
or postings photos and links of pageants. "Hu u? " is that a
blogger's language? Well, it speaks tons about you little blogger.
SALDE L. SINGO: Just because i replied kilometrically means
your statements were not senseless or pointless. What about erroneous that they
need to be corrected?
ME: //Please dont guise your photo grabbing online activity
as a blogging. Nagpopost lng ng pageant photos blogger na?// - CERTAINLY YOU
DON’T KNOW THAT I AM A BLOGGER. ANG NAKITA MO LANG IS THE SHARED PHOTO FROM THE
FB PAGE – WHICH IS AN EXTENTION
OF MY BLOG.
//Bloggers pala tayong lahat// - HAHAHAHA. CERTAINLY THIS IS
THE CONCLUSION OF A PERSON WHO KNOWS VERY LITTLE. IKAW HINDI BLOGGER, AKO LANG.
//First, if one says "the one in the picture is my alaga."
, you have to take that. It is you who should prove it otherwise by showing
evidence.// - SORRY MY DEAR, I DON’T SEE IT THAT WAY. IT’S THE OTHER WAY
AROUND. YOU SEE, IT’S BEEN 24 HOURS AND JOEY HAS YET TO PROVE HIS CLAIM BY
SHOWING ME THE PHOTO THAT HE CLAIMED TO BE HIS ALAGA. SO STOP BRAGGING JOEY IN
YOUR MESS.
//Don't make it obvious that you are running out of defense.
Prove your point! If you are a blogger, just like YOU claim to be, then be
objective, not defensive. If you have got evidence that you are indeed a
blogger, people will see that. I hope they are not mere announcements or
postings photos and links of pageants.// - IF YOU CLICK THE LINKS IN MY FB PAGE
AND IN MY WALL, IT WILL TAKE YOU TO MY BLOG. CERTAINLY YOU DON’T KNOW THAT I AM
A BLOGGER. PAGEANT ORGANIZERS KNOW THAT I AM ONE. NOW YOU KNOW TOO.
//"Hu u? " is that a blogger's language? Well, it
speaks tons about you little blogger.// - BAKIT, GULAT KA?
//Just because i replied kilometrically means your statements
were not senseless or pointless. What about erroneous that they need to be
corrected?// SABI MO, (1) “IF GIVE A CHANCE, WE ALL DO THE SAME THING.” MALI KA
DITO KASI NOT ALL PEOPLE WILL DO THAT, SA LOGIC THIS IS SWEEPING
GENERALIZATION; (2) SABI MO RIN “WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE SOMEONE TO BE IMMORAL…”
MALI KA RIN DITO DAHIL THE CAPTION IN THE PHOTO DOESN’T MENTION OR JUDGE THE
PERSON/S IN THE PHOTO AS IMMORAL; SABI MO RIN (3) “BLOGGER WANNABE.” MALI KA
RIN DITO, HAHAHAHA. I HAVE ALREADY BLOGGED, THUS NO LONGER A WANNABE; TAZ ITO
PA, (4) “BLOGGERS PALA TAYONG LAHAT.” TUMBLING NA NAMAN SA SWEEPING
GENERALIZATION. SIGE ARGUE WITH ME PA MORE WITH LOGIC 101.
SALDE L. SINGO: Hahaha. This is fun. Pinioilit talagang
iclaim ang pagiging blogger. Hahaha.
SALDE L. SINGO: if you want to improve the selection system
of our pageants, do you think magagawa mo yan by posting a pic, 1. That is not
your own. 2. You did not credit the owner. 3. Disrespecting the people in the
pic. Btw, covering their eyes did not help at all. 4. You made an assumption
with your dirty mind what was going on when the pic was taken? Pag matino kang
tao, you would say sorry. Ok?
SALDE L. SINGO: Kung makapagdemand ang wannabe blogger.
Bwahahaha. Examine thouroughly talaga? Hindi scrutinize? You just gave me a
laugh trip!
SALDE L. SINGO: Ok let me scrutinize your rebuttals. Did you
really say "bragging"? Or did you mean dragging? Oxford dictionary
please!
SALDE L. SINGO: You said you respect my what? My trip? I was
not quite sure what you meant? A blogger should have a wide range of vocabulary.
SALDE L. SINGO: Hayan oh. You were asked to show proof. Not
the other way around? Do you see? I haven't seen your proof. A true blogger,
responsible that is, does an extensive research first before coming out with a
scoop or idea. Well, i can see you do the opposite. Blog first then research
later, if you do it at all.
ME: // Hahaha. This is fun. Pinioilit talagang iclaim ang pagiging blogger.
Hahaha.// - LINK
OF THIS POST PROVIDED. SALDE, MY WALL CAN BE READ BY MY FRIENDS ONLY, BUT THEN
BECAUSE THIS IS ALREADY IN MY BLOG – OUR CONVERSATION IS NOW PUBLIC. THE
VISITORS OF MY BLOG NOW SEE THIS AND THEY ALREADY FIND OUT THAT YOU ARE
LAMBASTING ME TO YOUR HEART’S CONTENT.
//if you want to improve the selection system of our
pageants, do you think magagawa mo yan by posting a pic,// - HINDI LANG YAN ANG
GINAGAWA KO DEAR. I DON’T HAVE TO ENUMERATE THAT TO YOU WHAT ARE THE OTHER
THINGS THAT I DO.
//1. That is not your
own. 2. You did not credit the owner.// -IT’S A PUBLIC DOMAIN. TEKA, YOU DID
NOT CREDIT THE OWNER????? MAY KULANG DITO, LOL.
// 3. Disrespecting the people in the pic. Btw, covering their
eyes did not help at all.// - AT LEAST IT DID NOT SHOW THEIR FACES. HAVING SAID
THAT, I COULD HAVE POST IT WITHOUT ALTERATION. PAG SA IBANG BLOGGERS YAN,
LANTARAN TALAGA.
//4. You made an assumption with your dirty mind what was going on when
the pic was taken? Pag matino kang tao, you would say sorry. Ok?
// - SAAN MO NAKITA/NAKUHA YANG ASSUMPTION NA YAN? MY MESSAGE IS CLEAR: “Pageant organizers, please examine
thoroughly your potential candidates. Remember, they shall be representing our
country. Future pageant candidates, please also sanitize your facebook accounts
and make sure you have a wholesome online presence.” IN MY BLOG
POST, I EVEN ADDED: “…To
gays, please don’t take photos like this, because they don’t contribute to the
upliftment of the LGBT community." THIS IS MY MESSAGE.
//Ok let me scrutinize your rebuttals. Did you really say
"bragging"? Or did you mean dragging? Oxford dictionary please!//
THAT IS TYPING ERROR DEAR. DID YOU ALSO NOTICED YOU HAVE SOME? MAS MARAMI NGA
EH. HERE O!
// You said you respect my what? My trip? I was not quite sure what you
meant? A blogger should have a wide range of vocabulary.//
HAHAHAHA. KANYA-KANYANG TRIP YAN. KUNG TRIP MONG MAG “check someone's police
record than someone else's facebook account”,
TRIP MO YAN. NIRERESPETO KO ANG GUSTO MO. IBA ANG TRIP KO. WALANG BASAGAN NG
TRIP.
// Hayan oh. You were asked to show proof. Not the other way around? Do you
see?// - HE CHALLENGED ME, CAN I NOT ALSO CHALLENGED HIM?
//I haven't seen your proof. // - DAHIL HINDI KO PA NAKITA
ANG PROOF NI JOEY. I BELIEVE HE CANNOT PROVE HIS CLAIM, BECAUSE THE TALENT HE
CLAIMED IS NOT THE ONE IN THE PHOTO. SO STOP DRAGGING HIM IN YOUR MESS. LOL.
//A true blogger, responsible that is, does an extensive
research first before coming out with a scoop or idea. Well, i can see you do
the opposite. Blog first then research later, if you do it at all.//
- THAT IS WELL RESEARCHED DEAR, KAYA NGA I CAN DEFEND MY CLAIM EH. THE PERSON
IN THE PHOTO IS NOT THE ONE HE CLAIMED TO BE HIS TALENT. IKAW BAKA GUSTO MO
RING MAGRESEARCH?
thats how male pagents in the Philippines, a place were individuals like him would lurk and abuse men.
ReplyDeleteyou were right to post that picture...it is good so that yung mga mahadera na mga baklang nanggagamit ng mga talents nila will be aware that the eyes of people are on them...
ReplyDeleteanyway, a lot of those who initially commented agree with you...so you should know you did the right thing
so what is salde singo's interest in all the brouhaha that this picture create? bakit gusto niyang ipatanggal ang picture? so maybe either siya yung nasa picture, or kamaganak niya or kaibigan niya...yung nakaluhod ha
ReplyDeletedi naman balahura yung contestant kasi swimwear yata yun nung pageant...yung balahura yun nakaluhod. yun ang dapat katayin sa kababuyan niya!!!
ilabas dapat ang mga khalayan ng mga baklang baboy na yan. dagok sila sa paguland ng malep ageants dito sa pinas. hoy utang na loob, magbayad kayo ng kolboy at huwag kayo magpalibre sa mga talents na hawak niyo mga balhura!
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